Defense of the Orthodox View of the Second Coming of Christ

In Response to the Teachings of Full Preterism

By Rev. Mitchell Dick - Grace Protestant Reformed Church
December 11, 2003

"But if FP is arbitrary and prejudiced in its interpretation, it also falls prey to the criticism of being arbitrary and also inconsistent and in its hermeneutic."

Full Preterism (FP) is the teaching that the second coming of Jesus is past. Jesus came, according to FP, in 70 A.D. in the destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman armies. Everything which Scripture teaches accompanies Christ's second coming has, according to FP, already been fulfilled. Shall there be a resurrection of the body-of yours, mine, or anyone else's? No, according to FP, this occurred in 70 A.D. Shall there be a general and universal judgment? No, this occurred in 70 A.D. Shall there be, in the future, the creation of a new heavens and new earth? No, says FP, the destruction of Jerusalem was the beginning of this new creation. And it is now.

The following is an examination of the claims of FP. It is written with some in mind whom, I fear, have been looking at Scripture lately entirely through FP eyes. It is a few observations, exegetical and doctrinal made by a pastor. This pastor, in the love of Christ, writes to persuade some to look at Scripture again through classic Christianity's creedal eyes. These "eyes", I do firmly believe, though never perfect, have been given clear sight by the Father in heaven; of the fundamentals of the faith once delivered to all saints (Jude 3).

So that we can believe and hope, together with the one faith and hope of the Church of all ages (Ephesians 4: 1-6) in what has ever been the one and only blessed hope of true, and always hope-full believers-the glorious future appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ (Titus 2: 13), may God bless this presentation, and our discussion of it.

My examination will proceed along three lines. First, I would set forth the truth of the concept and creation in Scripture called "the new heavens and earth." Second, I would speak to the matter of what in Scripture is called "the coming of the Lord." Third, I would reflect upon the importance of this matter of eschatology for our faith, life, love, and hope.

I. The New Heavens and Earth

The concept and creation of a "new heavens and earth" is mentioned in passages such as Isaiah 65: 17-25; 66:22- 24; II Peter 3; and Revelation 21. I would make two main points about this "new heavens and new earth." First, that it is the creation of a perfected cosmos. Second, that is place of the glorified eternal life of the believers in Jesus Christ.

A. Perfected Cosmos

As to the first: the new heavens and earth is the creation of a perfected cosmos, we consider first of all the fact that this new heavens and earth is indeed a place of cosmic, or universal scope. FP contends that the passing away of the heavens and the earth and the creation of the new is the passing away, simply and entirely, of ''the Old covenant world of Old Israel" "in order to create the New World" of the Church of Jesus Christ (cf. Don K. Preston art. "How Heaven and Earth Passed Away," p. 11). But this perception and indeed severe narrowing of the concept "new heavens and earth" finds no basis in Scripture.

By no stretch of sound biblical exegesis can the concept "new heavens and earth" in Scripture refer to anything less than an entirely new creation. The Hebrew scholar Girdlestone, commenting on the use of the Hebrew word for earth (Eretz), mentions in his book Synonyms of the OT, p.262, that "when the earth is spoken of in connection with heaven (as in Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 49:13, and 65:17), it must have the larger meaning" (That is: it must refer not to a special territory, but to the whole world, MD). And when speaking of the Hebrew word Shamaim (heavens), Girdlestone (pp265, 267) speaks of different referents such as the atmosphere, or the starry heavens-but never once does he mention that the Hebrew concept Shamaim refers to some Hebrew world, kingdom, or covenant. Never is there in Girdlestone's exegesis and explanation, any conclusion made that "heavens and earth" only symbolize spiritual realities. The only difference of interpretation in the use of, 'heavens" and "earth" is in the scope, the precise location of the physical reality to which they refer. Also Gesenius, in his renowned Hebrew lexicon, knows of no "symbolic" interpretation of heaven and earth.

The context of passages in which the concept of new heavens and earth are used always plainly teaches that a cosmic reality is intended. Isaiah 65 passage refers, for example, to wolves and lambs, lions and bullocks, dust and serpents in the new heavens and new earth. There are new relationships among these creatures, to be sure, among these earthly creatures. But this only indicates that they are "new" as is the new heavens and earth of which they are a part. There is no indication that these are only "symbolic" or "non-material" creatures, and that the harmony and end of the curse which is implied by their new heaven and earth status and relationship is only symbolic, as FP would have us believe, of a new covenant which has no literal, material, cosmic significance. These creatures of God will be in the new heavens and new earth. They are part of it. And when the heavens and the earth are called to sing when the Lord shall have comforted his people and have had mercy upon his afflicted (Isaiah 49: 13), this is the whole literal created cosmos. There is no sound exegetical reason to understand otherwise.

Revelation 21, which speaks of a new heaven (singular) and new earth is also, clearly, cosmic. Its creation, for example, involves the "passing away" of the first heaven and the first earth so that there is no more sea (v. 1). II Peter 3, as well, addresses the cosmic aspect of the new heavens and earth when it speaks of the day of the Lord coming in which "the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heart, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up" (v.l0).

This clearly speaks of the real stuff of which the real created universe is made, and all of it, being destroyed. It clearly implies that the new heavens and new earth for which believers look according to God's promise (v. 13), is made out of the same stuff, and will be a new universe.

The second outstanding feature of this new cosmic creation is that it is perfect.

The first creation was a good creation of God (Genesis 1, 2). This new creation will be eminently good and glorious and never liable again to imperfection, disruption, disharmony, death, and curse. This is the plain teaching of Isaiah 65 passage which speaks of wolf and lamb feeding together, vegetarian lions, and harmless serpents; all of the creatures of which "shall not hurt nor destroy" in all God's holy mountain (v.25).

This same new heavens and earth creature-harmony is referred to in Isaiah 11: 6-9.

How this new creation is made is important to understand. The creation of new heavens and earth is twofold. It involves conflagration. It involves conflagration which is redemption.

Conflagration. The new heavens and new earth, created at the coming and final day of the Lord, is established by the burning up of the old earth, and a new creative re- fashioning of that creation by the hand of God after the old has been purged of all sin and the effects of sin.

II Peter 3 speaks of the creation of a new heavens and earth at the coming of the day of the Lord (v. 10ff). The plain sense of the passage is that this occurs at the dissolution of the physical heavens and earth, and is the creation of an entire new cosmos, a new heavens and new earth. The day of the Lord, which will come, we are told, as a thief in the night, is one in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heart, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up (v. 10). This coming day of God will be one of fire "wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat" (v. 12). The destruction of this heavens and earth is compared with the destruction of ' 'the world that then was", v.6, at the time of the flood. The heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word (by which the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water (v.5) are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men, v. 7 .

FP tries with might and main to escape the clear sense and full force of the inspired Peter's words. At issue is FP's whole doctrinal house. Obviously, at 70 AD, when, it is contended, Christ came, and the new heavens and earth were created, there was no literal burning up of the universe. So II Peter 3, which the Church of Jesus Christ has always interpreted as clearly teaching a literal burning of the old and the creation of a new heavens and earth, must be reinterpreted.

Don Preston's interpretation of II Peter 3 is a glaring and appalling example of the desperate attempt of Preterists to fit everything into their Preterist glove. In an article on the subject of "The Passing of the Elements": 2 Peter 3: 10 Preston states:

"My argument is simple: Paul wrote the same thing about the passing of the "elements" of the world as did Peter (2 Peter 3:15, 16). But Paul, in discussing the passing of the "elements" of the world, wrote exclusively of the passing away of the "elements" of Old Covenant Israel. Therefore, Peter, in 2 Peter 3, wrote of the passing of the "elements" of Old Covenant Israel."

As simple as that! Paul meant one thing about the passing of the elements of the world. Therefore, Peter, in 2 Peter 3, must mean the same as Paul! About this, several comments:

First, this is no exegesis of the passage in Peter. It is eisegesis, a reading into the passage what one wants it to say. It is committing the logical fallacy of "begging the question,” assuming as true what needs to be proven to be true. It is dishonor to the Word of God, which must be handled with respect and listened to!

Second, one could just as well counter, using the same reasoning as Preston that because Peter means one thing about the passing of the elements of the world, therefore Paul ought to mean the same thing!

Third, it is the case, in fact that the Spirit through Paul is addressing of one thing and the Spirit through Peter is speaking of another thing. Whereas Paul specifically and pointedly and obviously in Galatians and Colossians, speaks of “elements of the world" under which those prior to Christ were in bondage, and from which Christians have been liberated, and, therefore, specifically, and pointedly and obvious1y is speaking of the glorious blessedness of the new covenant, Peter in II Peter 3 makes no such reference to these kinds of "elements of the world", namely principles of the Old Testament law, nor is Peter speaking of the establishment of the "new covenant", but of creation of the new heavens and new earth-the exact correspondence of which two (new covenant and new creation), indeed is what needs to be proven, and not merely assumed by FP!

Rather, in the context of II Peter 3 itself, there is clear reference to a world, a physical world, just like the world that then was before the flood, v.6, which, upon the coming of the Lord, will bum up. This "burning up", this being "reserved unto fire" is something which must be taken literally. There is in this passage no ground for a "spiritualizing" of this "burning". FP latches on to "elements" here, which has, it contends, in other places, a meaning which suits its system, and then forces a "spiritualized" interpretation. But if FP is arbitrary and prejudiced in its interpretation, it also falls prey to the criticism of being arbitrary and also inconsistent and in its hermeneutic. For if "elements" here is spiritual, so is the "burning", so is the "fervent heat", so are the "works" of men which also shall be burned up, so are the heavens, and so is the earth which are to be "burned," and ultimately so are the heavens and earth which are now, the world that then was, the Deluge which destroyed that (spiritual) place (v.6), and the very beginning of the creation, v.4 which the day of the Lord brings to an end!

The desperation of FP to find an interpretation that fits into its 70 A.D. perception, while trying to dodge the light of II Peter 3 is seen in another article by Preston, entitled "World Without End." His contention there is that Genesis 8:21-22 is proof positive that the Lord would never destroy the earth. That text reads

v.21: "And the LORD smelled a sweet savory; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground anymore for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

v.22: "While the earth remaineth, seed-time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

An interpretation which would find in this passage irrefutable evidence that the Lord would never destroy the earth is no interpretation of the text. It is a reading into the text what one wants it to say. The Lord says here that He will not again smite any more every living thing as He had done (v.21.). This could mean that He would never send a flood upon the earth again-so that in that manner the Lord would never visit the earth in judgment. But that is not the idea. The idea is that the Lord will not destroy the earth at all as long as it remains. And the reason He gives is that whereas once, due to man's sinfulness, He would show Himself wrathful (Genesis 6:5), now, though there be this same sinfulness (8:21), ye He will show Himself the God of mercy in refraining from destroying the earth so long as it remains.

Preston sees this linking of God's promise not to destroy the earth "because of man's sin" as proof that God will never destroy the earth, because man will always be sinful. The difficulty with this is that

1) This is not what the passage says. Verse 22 specifically says: while the earth remains there shall be seed time and harvest, etc... The Hebrew reads literally "Until all the days of the earth..." there shall be seed time and harvest, etc..." .It does not say that the earth, this earth, will exist forever. .It only says that "until all the days of the earth" there shall be seed time and harvest, etc... The phrase "until all the days of the earth" might mean, in fact, that "until all the days" are fulfilled, and the time which has been appointed for final judgment has come, there shall be no more preliminary destruction of the earth as in the Deluge." This would be the traditional understanding of the text in light of the rest of the Bible.

2) Nothing in the passage in Genesis 8 shows, as Preterists desire it show, that there will be sin on this earth forever. There will be sin on this earth "while the earth remains," "until all the days of the earth," but the text does not say this is forever.

3) The rest of the Scripture clearly speaks of the destruction of the earth, of the kosmos (II Peter 3; Hebrews 1: 10, 11), and of a day when there will be no more sin-in the new heavens and earth (II Peter 3: 13). Genesis 8 must, therefore, be interpreted in that clear light.

FP denies that the establishment of the new heavens and new earth involves the conflagration of the physical universe and the creation, out of that, of the new. It contends that it involves, instead, the abrogation of the old covenant, and the establishment of the new covenant.

This is brought out in FP's interpretation of various phrases in the book of Hebrews which speak of heavens and earth and either their shaking or their passing away. This has nothing to do with "physical worlds" says FP, but with "covenant worlds" (cf Don Preston, art. "World Without End").

A passage like Hebrews 1:10-12, for example, is thought to teach that the folding up of the heavens and earth, and the changing of them, is the destruction of the old covenant, and the establishment of the new. The passage reads:

And thou, Lord; in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: they shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment,' and as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. "

To any believing, Bible honoring reader this passage can not refer to the abrogation of one covenant and the establishment a new. As follows:

Here (and in Psalm 102:25-27 of which this passage is a quotation) is clear reference to the future destruction of the universe. The Lord Himself destroys what He, in the beginning has made. Since "in the beginning" (Genesis 1:1) the Lord made a physical universe, the "perishing" of it (Psalm 102:26), and the "folding up" of it must mean, according to sound exegetical principles, the perishing and folding up that same physical universe.

The purpose of this passage in Hebrews is the same as the purpose of the entire first chapter: to establish the preeminency of the Christ of God over all the cosmos!

Here, it is stated that the Son, whom God hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds, v.2, is the same Lord, v.10 and God (Psalm 102:24,25) Who made all things, and also, according to His good pleasure and power, shall destroy them.

Here is trumpeted the supremacy of the sovereign, cosmic, creating Christ, the very Son of God, the brightness of the glory of God, the express image of His person, v.3!

This cosmic creating Christ, in the mention of His causing the earth He has made to perish, the Word presents as "folding up" the creation as a vesture so that it shall be "changed." John Owen comments on this passage as follows:

"The work which was of old in the creation of the world, and that which shall be in the mutuation or abolition of it,--which is not less an effect of infinite power than the former,--are ascribed unto the Lord Christ. Whatever the work be, he compares it to a garment no more to be used, or at least not to be used in the same kind wherein it was before; and the work itself to the folding up or rolling up of such a garment,--intimating the greatness of him by whom this work shall be performed, and the facility of the work unto him. The whole creation is as a garment, wherein he shows his power clothed unto men; whence in particular he is said to clothe himself with light as with a garment. And in it is the hiding of his power. Hid it is, as a man is hid with a garment; not that he should not be seen at all, but that he should not be seen perfectly and as he is. It shows the man, and he is known by it; but also it hides him, that he is not perfectly or fully seen. So are the works of creation unto God. He so far makes them his garment or clothing as in them to give out some instances of his power and wisdom; but he is also hid in them, in that by them no creature can come to the full and perfect knowledge of him. Now, when this work shall cease, and God shall unclothe or unveil all his glory to his saints, and they shall know him perfectly, see him as he is, so far as a created nature is capable of that comprehension, then will he lay them aside and fold them up, at least as to that use, as easily as a man lays aside a garment that he will wear or use no more. This lies in the metaphor." (Hebrews, vol. 3, p.209).

The FP thinks it has justification for its interpretation of Hebrews 1:10-12 in light of Hebrews 8:13 and Hebrews 12:18-29. Hebrews 12 speaks of the "shaking" of the earth in connection with God's salvation of both the old covenant and the new covenant people. Hebrews 8 speaks of covenant in language reflective of Hebrews 1 when it says in that he saith, a new covenant, he hath made the first old Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. The problem for FP is that neither text itself or by implication makes the leap of equating as it desperately desires the dissolution of the earth with the dissolution of the covenant, and the establishment of the new heavens and earth with the establishment of the new covenant.

No exegesis will help the FP view. But balanced, contextual explanation of the Word will surely favor the Reformed perspective of the cosmic covenant and the new heavens and new earth (cf. John Owen, for a balanced view of both Hebrews I: 10-12 and Hebrews 8:13, in his Hebrews, vol. 3, p.210, and vol. 6, p. I 76, 7).

The equating of the establishment of the new heavens and earth with the establishment of the new covenant, is, I believe, a fatal exegetical and principal flaw of FP. FP needs this "covenant principle", of course, to justify its view that Christ came in 70 A.D. and inaugurated then the new heavens and earth. The "covenant principle" is used by them to explain the apparent "oldness", still, of the creation. It is used by them to explain that the possession of resurrection bodies is not important, and not taught in Scripture. It is used to explain why there is still physical death, and sorrow, and sighing. The explanation? Salvation is spiritual! Life in new covenant fellowship with God is the thing! Behold in Christ, the Christ Who is come, all things are new! And through faith the believer can be now so enrapt with this new life with God in the new heavens and earth so that the earth and his present disease and their present deformities do not so much matter.

We beg to differ! Matter matters. The cosmos matters. The body matters. Because God's covenant matters, and God's covenant was established in the way of incarnation, matter matters.

The traditional Reformed view is as follows.

First, the old covenant/new covenant transition was established/or the Church in and through the atoning blood of Jesus, and realized in the Church on the day of Pentecost (cf Jesus' words at the institution of the Supper, '~This is the new covenant in my blood...", and Acts 2: 14ff). The Jews as a nation were rejected already in the cross of Christ's judgment. The destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. was neither the abrogation of the old covenant, nor the establishment of the new covenant? It was rather a confirmation in history of what occurred really and principally in those saving events of our Lord. A.D. 70 was a sign, indeed, both of the significance of the Jewish rejection of Messiah (prior to AD. 70), and of Christ's victory on the cross and in His resurrection (cf. Robert Reymond on Matthew 24 in his "A New Systematic Theology of the Christian Faith". Reymond sees Matthew 24.30 as proof that in the destruction of Jerusalem is a sign of Jesus not come to earth, but reigning in heaven, and "coming" therefore, in power and in judgment, even as He said would "hereafter," after His death and resurrection, would be the case, Matthew 26:64). Shifting the focus of covenant to 70 AD. shifts the focus, dangerously, away from Calvary, Resurrection Sunday, and Pentecost. It also shifts the focus, inordinately, on the Jews, and away from the Church. The destruction and raising of the temple Jesus must be the focus. The establishment of the temple Church must be the focus.

Second, the covenant is cosmic. And the cosmos has to do with covenant. God so loved, in covenant love, the world, the created cosmos, and gave His Son for it (John 3:16). The creation of it, the passing away of it, the creation of the new heavens and new earth in which righteousness shall dwell is all about covenant and creation, covenant in creation, and all the creation participating in the covenant blessing and fellowship of God.

To be sure, Jerusalem, the people of God is always at the center of the covenant, the apple of all the apples and ants and whatnot of the earth, being the apple of God's eye. In a very real sense Jerusalem, the city of God, and the new Jerusalem are at the center of God's universe! God's covenant salvation of His people in Christ is His first and primary of all purposes. For by that Word Christ, and for Him, were all things made (Colossians 1: 15ff). But redemption is cosmic. As the fall was, so the renewal is and shall be-even now, there is a whole creation which groans and travails in pain together until now. . . waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body (Romans 8:22,23). Which leads to this point:

Conflagration which is redemption. The reason that the new heavens and new earth is cosmic, and is a perfect cosmos, is because redemption embraces the heaven and earth. Even as when God created the heavens and the earth and even as when in the fall the effect, the death, was "cosmic", affecting the whole (Genesis 3), so redemption embraces the whole. The whole creation which groans and travails in pain together until now, waits for the adoption, the redemption of the body, which is nothing less than deliverance from the bondage of corruption and a participation in the glorious liberty of the children of God (Romans 8:19-23)

Cornelis Venema, in his excellent work entitled "The Promise of the Future," writes:

Sin has disrupted the harmony and peace between the Triune God and his creatures, a disruption that encompasses heaven and earth. Even in heaven itself, the enemies of God have rebelled against his gracious rule. Indeed the rebellion of the creature against the Creator began in heaven and spilled over to the earth. Consequently, when God's work of redemption reaches its consummation. not only will every rebellious creature be cast out of heaven, but the earth itself will be cleansed of every vestige of sin. Heaven and earth, rather than being estranged from each other, will once more be reunited in a new heaven and new earth in which righteousness dwells (2 Peter 3: 13) (p.459)

Venema writes further:

The future of the believing community will be one in which the original harmony between heaven and earth is restored. The peace or shalom that mark the life of the renewed creation will be expressed in the reconciliation of heaven and earth. Heaven, the place of God's special dwelling, will come down to the earth and God will dwell in the midst of his people. The promise of the future for believers finds its focus in heaven. but it does not exclude the earth. Rather, all things will be united in Christ. whether things in heaven or things upon the earth (Eph. 1:10).

And:

The creation will be wholly sanctified cleansed of every stain and remainder of sin. The new heavens and the new earth will be more glorious and resplendent of God's power, wisdom, and grace. that the creation at its beginning. Once more but now in a .;surpassing wav, the creation will be a temple fit for the dwelling of God with his people, a place suitable for the eniovent of communion and friendship between the Creator and the creature. (460)

B. Glorified Eternal Life of the Believers in Christ

The New heavens and Earth is the place of eternal blessedness. At the prospect of it the people of God are called to be glad and rejoice. And the reason is because the new heavens and new earth shall be the creation of Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. (Isaiah 65: 18). There shall be no more tears there. nor sorrow- nor sighing. nor pain (Revelation 21: 4). And the reason for this is that in the new heavens and earth there will be no more cause for sorrow, namely, sin, nor will there be any consequences or sin such as, and including the principle consequence, death (Romans 6:23). It is the place where righteousness shall dwell (II Peter 3:13), and the effects righteousness of Christ, even eternal life (Romans 5: 14, 21).Yes. as death reigned by sin. so life in the new heavens and earth reigns by the righteousness of Christ! Here is the absence of every form of vanity, sickness, affliction, weakness, dishonor, and corruption. Here is the glory of full redemption (Luke 24:26: Rom 2:10; 8:18, 21, 2 Thessaloinas 1: 10). Here is the eternity or the life of perfect fellowship with God and The privilege of worshiping God, this new world without end! Venema summarizes This blessed state of the new heavens and earth as follows:

Believers who presently bless God for every .spiritual blessing in Christ," (Eph1: 3), will enter into the perfection of these blessings in the life to come. Every vestige and remainder of sin will be utterly expunged. Every obstacle to ,fellowship with the triune God will be removed. No impediment or weight of sin will stand in the wav of wholehearted communion and love for God. " (p.470)

FP are obviously faced with a lot of problems when it comes to explaining how, in light of the clear teaching of Scripture of the "blessed hope" of the believer, that this, this present life of sin and death, which FP claims is the new heavens and new earth. could be the consummation of that hope! One tactic is to find a text which might seem to teach the presence of sin and death in the new heavens and new earth and to explain what the clear teaching of the Bible on this matter. in "light" of what might. admittedly, be a difficult passage.

Such as Isaiah 65:20. This reads: There shall be no more thence an infant of days. nor an old man that hath not filled his' days: for the child shall die an hundred years' old, but the sinner being! an hundred years old shall be accursed

The FP might have the audacity to suggest that that means there will be sin and death in the new heavens and earth. But Scripture must decide. and it indeed condemns such a notion. and for the following: reasons:

1. The Bible clearly says in other places that in the new heavens and earth in the final state and condition of the Church of Jesus Christ. there will be no more sin and death.

That there is no more sin is clear from the fact that this is the place where righteousness (and nothing: else!) dwells. And where sinners shall have no place, for there shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life (Revelation 21 :27).

That there is no more death is clear from the fact that there is no more sin. It is also clear from a passage such as Isaiah 25: 8 (quoted in I Corinthians 15) which speaks of death being swallowed up in victory in the day of the Lord. It is also clear from Revelation 21:4 which is the very New Testament explanation of the joyful state depicted in Isaiah 65 as it says: "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eves: and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passing away." The Lord Jesus. sneaking of the children who are accounted worthy to obtain "that" (new) world- says that then and there they can not die anymore (Luke 20:36).

And the honor of that same Lord Jesus is that He must reign- till he hath put all enemies under his feet. And that last enemy, according: to 1 Corinthians. 15: 26) is death.

2. As to the interpretation of Isaiah 65:20 I offer the following:

1) In light of the above texts, v.20 cannot mean there is sin and death in the new heavens and new earth.

2) In light of the fact that God Himself will rejoice in this Jerusalem- v.19. meaning there is no cause for grief even for God ( cf Isaiah 63: 9, 10), and therefore nothing. which moves God to anger. there can not be any sin and death in the new heavens and new earth. The first perfect creation God called “good:" this new creation and Jerusalem he will call "best!"

3) The first part of the verse, which reads lit., "From there" shall be no more an infant of days, etc...", may be interpreted (as by E. Y. Young): "From there may refer to Jerusalem, the thought being that There will not be from there (i.e. taken away from there by death) a suckling with respect to days. Thus. death will not take away from there (i.e. from the Jerusalem of the messianic age) one who is merely a suckling child as death is now wont to do. Nor will the elderly man who has not yet lived out the full span of life meted to him be taken away by death as is now the case."

4) As to the expression "for the child shall die an hundred years old_" this is to be understood according to the main point which the prophet would make. now poetically. that the new heavens and new earth will be one of unmitigated joy. It describes the fact that there will be no death for the child! Just as it is impossible for a child to die when an hundred years old- for then the child would no longer be a child, so there will be no death for the child!

5) That the text sneaks of a sinner being an hundred years old, who nevertheless shall be accursed. is not to be understood as if there were sinners in the new heavens and earth. The text is in fact contrasting the state of those in Jerusalem, of the elect saints, with the sinners.

There seems in fact to be here a contrast begun in v.13 between the elect servants of God and the wicked who forsake God. That a sinner is mentioned in this context does not suggest that the sinner lives side by side with the saints in the new heavens. That a sinner might have a lot of earthy years, but no blessing, only curse, serves to contrast the blessedness of the believer In glory with the sinner who perished under the wrath of God (cf. Isaiah 66:22-24).

6) This interpretation tits the context. w21-25, in which the blessedness of the glory is further described as being rid of all semblance and form of the vanity and death of this life. so that even in the animal realm there is no death, and nothing and no one, not AIDS, nor cancer, nor heart disease, hurting in all my holy mountain (v.25).

In the eternal glorified state, condition, and place of the new heavens and new earth will be new believers! The "newness" of the believers will involve there having new. resurrection bodies. When the Lord comes again. there is a general resurrection of both the just and the unjust. John 5:28.29. There is for believers then. a "redemption" of our bodies (Romans 8:23), and a renewal of that body to fit it for glory by its own glorification: I Corinthians 15.

Since FP advocates the view that the Parousia of Christ was in 70 A.D., it is forced to confess that there must have been then a resurrection, of sorts, then. FP, however, denies the orthodox confession of the resurrection of the body in that- for one thing. it denies that the resurrection involves our own physical bodies. As the establishment of the new heavens and new earth is a spiritual-covenantal event, so the resurrection in 70 A.D. was, if It occurred, of a spiritual sort. and by spiritual read "non-physical." This is no small matter. but. according! to the Christian Church. grievous heresy. For the Westminster Larger Catechism, 0 & A 86 reads "

The communion in glory with Christ, which the members of the invisible church enjoy immediately after death, is, in that their souls are then made perfect in holiness, and received into the highest heavens, where they behold the face of God in light and glory, waiting, for the, full redemption of their bodies, which even in death continue untied to Christ, and rest in their graves as in their beds, till at the last day they be again united to their souls.

And Westminister's Confession of Faith calls the resurrected body of believers the "selfsame" body which they had on the earth. And the Heidelberg Catechism speaks of our comfort knowing that in the resurrection this my body, being raised by the power of Christ, shall be reunited with my soul, and made like unto the glorious body of Christ " (Lord's Day 22).

Speaking on the importance of maintaining the orthodox doctrine of the resurrection of the body, Venema, in "The Promise of the Future," writes

The biblical expectation for the future of believers is not primarily focused upon what is often called the intermediate state Much less is it the immortality of the soul. The spotlight of the bible falls upon the resurrection of the body, that is, the restoration and renewal of the whole person, body and soul, in a renewed state of integrity within the context of a new heavens and earth. (p.364).

Venema goes on:

This is in fact one of the distinctive features of the biblical view of the future and of the salvation that is obtained for us in Christ. The biblical account of creation records that the Triune God created Adam a 'living soul', formed from the dust of the earth (Gen. 2.7). Our creatureliness in its wholeness and integrity always includes the body, which was created originally good. Redemption from the curse of God against sin likewise addresses the whole of our need, body and soul. This is the reason the reformation confession, the Heidelberg Catechism, speaks of the believer's comfort in terms of belonging to Christ 'with body and soul '. Redemption does not deny the integrity and goodness of creation; it rather brings the healing and renewal of creation. The same Lord who forgives all our sins is the One who 'heals all our diseases', including that sickness of body and soul that leads to death (Psalms 103,3). Thus, no biblical picture of the believer's future may fail to include as a central part the promise of the resurrection of the body. (p.364,5)

Venema in a footnote adds:

In many dualistic worldview which sharply distinguish the spiritual and the material (Manichaeism, some forms of ancient Greek philosophy) and in many monistic worldviews that deny the ultimate reality of the material world (Gnosticism, Hinduism, Buddhism), the teaching of a resurrection of the body has no legitimate or proper place. The biblical teaching of the resurrection of the body has an appropriate home within the framework of the biblical understanding of creation and redemption, with redemption as a restoration and renewal, and not a denial, of creation. (p.364,5)

Speaking to the nature of the resurrection body Venema notes the following:

First, we can draw some conclusions from the resurrection of Christ's body, for the changing of our vile body in the resurrection is said to be a fashioning like unto Christ's glorious body…Phil 3:21. The empty tomb and the appearances of Jesus on earth tell us that though Jesus' body after His resurrection was different (He could pass through walls), yet there was substantial likeness: it was the same body, and He took pains to prove this to the disciples.

Second, we can draw conclusions from passages which speak more directly of the nature of the resurrection body. I Tim 2: 18: false teachers taught that the resurrection had "largely taken place.". These had apparently spiritualized the resurrection. Phil 3:20,21 teach that our own humble body will be glorified: our present bodies exhibit all the marks of sin and curse: weak, decaying, fragile, and temporary; our resurrection bodies: all the marks and benefits of Christ's saving work: strong, incorruptible, indestructible, enduring... In 2 Corinthians 5: 1-9 believers body are compared to an earthly tent which after it is torn down is replaced by a building form God a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens, vs.

Commenting at length on the most extensive passage, I Corinthians 15, Venema explains as follows:

Conclusions:

1. Paul is answering the question: what kind of body do they come, 35.

2. First the apostle uses the metaphor of the see that is sown and its eventual germination and bringing forth of fruit to illustrate the connection between the present body and the resurrection body. However great the difference between the seed sown and the fruit it eventually bears the seed and the fruit are of one kind. . . Then the apostle elaborates at some length upon the obvious differences in the kinds of flesh that distinguishes various creatures. The resurrection of the body is likened to the dying of a seed in order that it might come to life in the form of its fruit. This means that the resurrection body is of a distinctively human kind. When God raises believers from the dead. their bodies, however new and changed, remain distinctively and peculiarly human, according to their kind.

3. Second, a series of contrasts are drawn between the natural and the spiritual body. The earthly body is sown perishable: in dishonor: in weakness: is natural... the body that shall be raised is raised imperishable: in glory; in power; is heavenly.

Summarizing Ihese contrasts Venema notes: p.374:

These terms- do not contras- a body that is made up of "material stuff’ with a body that is made up of 'spiritual stuff’, as if to suggest that the resurrection body will me immaterial or non-fleshly. Rather, they distinguish sharply the present body as one which belongs to the present age which is passing away and under the curse of God, and the resurrection body which belongs to the life of the Spirit in the age to come. The distinction is not between material and immaterial. but between two kinds of bodies. that answer to the present age and the age to come.”

4. Third. in the closing section the description of these respective bodies is based on the contrast between the two original bearers or these bodies: the first man, Adam and the second man, Christ. Adam who is from the earth is intimated with the earthly bodies of those that bear his image. Adam represents the first humanity which is under the dominion and liability of sin, meaning it is subject to perishing, dishonor, weakness,. death. Christ, who is "from heaven" is closely related to the heavenly bodies who bear his image: they are the second humanity under the dominion and blessing of salvation, the recipient of imperishability, glory, power and never ending life. The resurrection body of believers will be conformed to that of Christ's glory; it will not be wholly dissimilar to the present body but will have similarity and continuity. Thus it will be the same body, but glorified, and a real body, material and fleshly but so conformed to the image and glory of Christ that no vestige of the power and destructive effects of sin will remain.: vv54-57.

This resurrection glory, Venema goes on, is linked to the resurrection and renewal of all things:

If the salvation of believers includes the restoration of body and soul to a state of integrity and wholeness, then it must also include the full restoration of the creation. Just as Adam was originally formed from the dust of the earth and placed within the creation-temple of God in which to serve and glorify the Creator, so also in redemption the new humanity will be restored to a life and service under the headship and dominion of the second Adam, in a newly cleansed creation temple.

So Venema concludes. p.378:

This intimate link between the believer's resurrection and the renewal of the creation allows us to see the unity between individual and general (or cosmic) eschatology. It also joins together the salvation of the church and her members with the great events of cosmic renewal that will accompany Christ’s return at the end of the age.

Indeed, in a legitimate sense, the justification and sanctification of the believer find their parallels' in the justification and sanctification of the heavens and earth in the new creation. Just a the Lord declared the first creation in its state of integrity very good (Genesis 2.. 31), so the renewed creation will be worthy of the same judgment. And just as the first creation was perfect and holy in its consecration to the Lord, so the renewed creation will be one 'wherein dwells righteousness' (see II Peter 3: 10-13). Justified and sanctified saints will dwell in a justified and sanctified creation. A people holy unto the Lord, a royal priesthood, will enjoy fellowship with the Lord in the sanctuary of his renewed creation

So, a mystery! But a blessed truth! We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed! Resurrection change! Shall your body die, and even decay, or be cast to the four winds or eaten by wild animals? No matter. for through Jesus Christ. and His resurrection as the first-fruits of the redemption of His own Body, your body shall be raised. Perhaps God will form the resurrection body from the same identical particles as the present body. Our God could do that. But this need not be the case for there to be substantial and personal identity to exist between the present body and the resurrection body. As in our own life we know that from our body we are losing, as we speak millions of cells and others are replacing it: also. we have injuries. and even might lose a limb: or undergo a heart transplant: yet always we are the same and have the same body, substantially. so God, Who does all things marvelously. will raise and renew us in our bodies in the final day in the general. public resurrection of the dead!

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ which according to him abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead to an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you who are kept by the power of God through him unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time! (I Peter 1:3-5)