Silence Demands a Rapture

Comments RKM: I do disagree with the content of this article. Please go to the Debate section and read others that disagree with this theory.

By Ed Stevens (Preterist1@aol.com)

PREFACE BY THE AUTHOR

First of all I want to acknowledge and thank Garrett Brown for patiently nudging me for more than five years to look at J.S. Russell's rapture theory.  I first got acquainted with Garrett through the tapes of the 1993 Covenant Eschatology Symposium in
Mt. Dora, Florida, which he sponsored. This small booklet is dedicated to both Garrett and his wife Beverly as a token of my extreme appreciation for all the many ways they have encouraged me through the years and supported our efforts to spread the eschatological truth.  May God richly bless them in every way. 

I resisted the rapture theory ("kicking and screaming") for a long time.  It just didn't make sense.  At first I didn't even see it as a "possible" interpretation.  But Garrett's persistence was eventually rewarded.  It was the definition and usage of the Greek word "harpazo" ("caught up" in 1 Thes.
4:17) that first flagged my attention. Then some other texts began to leap off the page at me, especially those which say what the first century saints were expecting to see and experience at the Parousia.  Then I noticed the total lack of recognition of the Parousia by any post-70 writers, especially the "apostolic fathers" who wrote immediately after AD 70.  These three factors began to work on me until I realized there is a serious grammatical, historical and contextual problem here that we twenty-first century Preterists have not adequately addressed.  This bothered me.  I lost sleep over it.  I have spent many hours at the library ransacking the commentaries to see how they handle these problems.  J. S. Russell's theory kept coming back to haunt me.  It finally became inescapable. 

I also want to thank Walt Hibbard and Arthur Melanson for being willing to join me in teaching and promoting this view of the rapture.  Both these men are long-term players in the Preterist movement and have been a tremendous encouragement to me.  May God bless them richly. 

In the pages below I will share some of the reasons I believe the rapture theory deserves our serious consideration. I'm not suggesting this just for fun.  I know many will think this theory is about as loony as UFO mania.  But I'm after TRUTH like all of us are.   And I'm simply following where Scripture and history are forcing me to go.  I wish I could stay with popular theories, but like Luther said, "My conscience is chained to Scripture." 

Please give it your most objective appraisal.

INTRODUCTION:  WHAT ARE WE SUGGESTING HERE?

In preparation of my speech on the "History of Eschatology" for the 2002  Bible Prophecy Conference in
Sparta, North Carolina, I was re-reading all my  church history material attempting to come to a better understanding of the historical development of eschatological interpretation in the post-70 church.  I was reminded of the extreme paucity of written material immediately after AD 70.  This silence has always been curious to me for many reasons. 

I was also reading Sam Frost's new book, Misplaced Hope, which is an excellent rebuttal against Jonathin Seraiah's critique of Preterism.  His book reminded me again of the extreme lack of writings by Christian leaders immediately after AD 70.  Indeed, Sam did a marvelous job of further minimizing the number of post-70 documents even more by suggesting that Barnabas and Clement may have been written before AD 70.  This makes the number of post-70 "Apostolic Father" writings even fewer.  It was not the purpose of Frost to solve the mystery of the post-70 silence, but rather simply to assume it as fact throughout his book.  And it is this silence, which all church historians acknowledge, that pushes me toward the rapture view. 

How could it be that some of the apostles and their traveling companions lived through the events of AD 70 without recognizing the significance of it and saying something about it?  This is the single most significant factor shaping the history of eschatological study that I am aware of.  All of church history and its consequent interpretation of Bible Prophecy is deeply affected by this silence.  Even the so-called "de-eschatologizing" process of New Testament theology was heavily affected by this silence which everyone assumes indicated a non-fulfillment. 

Every student of church history is puzzled by the silence.  Even futurists acknowledge the strange absence of historical material coming from the three decades immediately after AD 70.  But no one spends much time trying to figure out why that silence is there.  It doesn't affect futurist eschatology nearly as much as it does the Preterist.  For futurists, it is merely a frustration.  But for Preterists it is a critical lack of documentation at the very time when we need significant historical validation of eschatological fulfillment.  Our critics often use this lack of historical documentation as evidence against the Preterist view.  Only Scripture has absolute authority to define our doctrinal belief system, and historical considerations can only have value when they confirm and explain the fulfillment of the Biblical predictions.  But, historical considerations can play a very significant role in Biblical interpretation when the Bible predicts specific, detailed and imminent events.  That detail demands fulfillment, and it is subsequent history that either validates or nullifies it.  That is the case here.  The NT writers gave specific, detailed expectations to the first century church about what they could expect to happen very soon.  Since we do not have any historical validation of those expectations being fulfilled, a "documentation problem" has surfaced.

It is this "silence" that this book will examine and try to understand. 



WHAT WAS THE PRE-70 CHURCH EXPECTING?

Unless we grasp how much the pre-70 church was expecting to see and experience when the Parousia arrived, we will not understand the problem of their silence after AD 70.  So let us begin by looking at their anticipations.  What did the apostles tell them that they would see and experience at the Parousia?  Here's a great example of this:  2 Thes. 1:6-10  --

"For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to GIVE RELIEF TO YOU who are afflicted and TO US AS WELL when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.  These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, when He comes to be GLORIFIED in His saints on that day, and to be MARVELED AT among all who have believed-for our testimony to you was believed."

Notice what Paul promises to the Thessalonians.  Their Jewish persecutors would be repaid with affliction at the Parousia, when Christ would come from heaven in flaming fire to destroy them.  Question:  Did the Jews get that  destruction in a tangible and visible way?  Did they SEE it and EXPERIENCE it?  Or was it merely some kind of "spiritualized" fulfillment that was not recognizable by the physical senses?

Notice what else Paul says would happen at the Parousia.  When Jesus was "revealed" (implying they would see Him "unveiled") at his coming/Parousia, he would be "glorified" by His saints on that day, and "MARVELED AT among all who have believed."  Question:  Where is the record of this happening?  Did it happen?  Was it documented?  Why not?  Paul says they would not only see him "revealed" at his return (a theophany), but would "marvel at him" in the company of all other true believers.  We know it was going to happen to physically alive people since he says it will occur at his Parousia when he  gives relief to them and all others who were alive and suffering in the tribulation at that time.  When and where did this happen?  How did it happen?  Why don't we have those folks after AD 70 telling the story about how glorious it was to be in His presence and marvel at His majesty?  Why are these folks, who supposedly were going to see this marvelous vindication and relief, so silent afterwards?  They should have been dancing in the streets!  If they were still around after seeing the Parousia and marveling at Christ in His presence, how could they do anything but talk about it afterwards (assuming they were still alive and on the earth)?

Their silence speaks volumes, especially since a few verses later (2 Thes. 2:1) Paul mentions their "gathering together to him" at His Parousia. If this isn't a promise of a rapture, I simply don't know what else to make of it.  The silence about Christ's Parousia from folks who were definitely  promised to SEE it and experience it is very significant!  Either those folks in the first century saw it and were taken to be with Christ immediately, or they did NOT see it at all and were so embarrassed or disillusioned about the non-fulfillment that they went away quietly and never spoke of it again. 

But this second option is not an option for Preterists, since Paul states emphatically that when Christ comes, His saints will see it, and they will be vindicated and rewarded by it, and will marvel at Christ in the company of all the other believing saints.  It becomes impossible to account for their silence afterwards unless they were removed from the scene by something like a rapture.  And that is exactly what Paul alludes to three verses later (2 Thess. 2:1) when he reminds them about the "gathering to Him" at His Parousia.  How would the Thessalonians have understood this?  What would their expectations have been?

Can you imagine how they would have felt immediately after AD 70 if they had not witnessed Christ's Parousia, nor marveled at Him in his coming, nor been "gathered" to Him in any visible, tangible sense?  Disillusionment is not the word for it.  Outrage or indignation would be more like it.  They would have been screaming "foul" at the non-fulfillment, or the false expectations they were given by Paul!  They would have joined the chorus of the "mockers" in 2 Pet. 3:4 who were singing:  "Where's the promise of His Parousia?"  Why don't we hear some complaints after AD 70?  Why are they so silent?  Were they "gathered to Him" just like Paul promised?  Is that the "upward call" (Phil.
3:14) that Paul was looking forward to?  Was that the time when their old bodies would be exchanged, or "changed" (1 Cor. 15:51), or "transformed" (Phil. 3:21) to be like Christ's glorious immortal body?

1 John 3:2 is another example.   John clearly says that those who were true "children of God" would definitely see Christ at His Parousia and become like him.  This is not apocalyptic language.  There is a very real expectation here.  He says they would see Christ return and would be made like Him at His coming.  Did they see Him return?  Did they remain on earth afterwards?  If so, why didn't they (apostle John especially) tell anyone about what they saw and experienced? 

John claimed they would SEE Him at his return, and that they would know it when he came.  Who can believe that John was still around and knew that the Parousia had happened, but refused to say anything about the fulfillments that he knew had occurred?  Even if they were fulfilled in a "spiritual-only" way he should STILL have at least explained that much of it, if he was still around.  He would still claim a past fulfillment for the Parousia.  But we don't even have that!  We have nothing from any of those apostolic men or their traveling companions about ANY KIND of fulfillments at AD 70.  Surely they didn't all die in the persecution (Timothy, Titus, Luke, Apollos, Barnabas, Gaius, Aristarchus, etc.)?  Did all these guys fail to perceive the fulfillments?  Or were they gone with Christ?  If they were still around, they would have been UNABLE to refrain from declaring their utter amazement at the fulfillments they had just witnessed and participated in.

Besides the 1 Thess. 4 text which clearly teaches a "catching up" of the living and remaining saints at the Parousia, there are other texts which either assert or imply a rapture.  Here's another example -- John 14:3. 

"If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and RECEIVE YOU TO MYSELF, that where I am, there you may be also."

Notice that Jesus promises to return to them after he has prepared a place for them in the heavenly realm (John 14:1-3).  He says he will come back and "receive [them] to himself," so that where he is (heaven), they would be also.  Jesus also said that apostle John would "live and remain" until He returned (John 21:22f).  And Mat. 16:27-28 says that there would be more than one of them alive at Christ's return ("some of those standing here"). Mat.
19:28 says that "in the regeneration" (after the resurrection at the Parousia) all twelve of them would get to be seated on thrones with Christ and judge the twelve tribes.  Notice that it says all twelve of them, not just the ones who had already died by that time.  This implies (if not outright demands) that the rest of the apostles who lived and remained until the Parousia would be "caught up" or "received unto" Christ in the heavenly realm at the Parousia to sit on the twelve thrones.

This sure sounds like the same thing Paul was talking about in 1 Thes. 4, doesn't it?  Wonder where Paul got the idea from?  (Jesus maybe?  John 14:3?)   You see, if Jesus didn't come back and "receive the living and remaining ones to Himself" then there were not 12 occupied thrones in the period (AD 66-70) when Christ was "present" (in his Parousia) judging the twelve tribes  for their covenantal unfaithfulness.  John 14:3 (along with Mat.
19:28; John 21:22f and Mat. 16:27f) forces the issue on us.  There is a real thorny "documentation problem" here.  If you had been apostle John or one of the other 12 who lived and remained until the Parousia, and you recognized his
Parousia had occurred, yet you were not "received to Himself" and taken to  heaven where he is, and were not seated on a throne at His side, nor riding  the heavens with Him as He and His angels judged the 12 tribes and avenged the blood of His saints for that three and a half years of His "visitation" (Parousia) -- how would you feel?  Would you be scratching your head wondering what happened?  "Where is the promise of my "reception into heaven," and my throne at Christ's side, and my judging the twelve tribes? My eyes are not seeing what my ears have heard promised." 

It was awareness of such an "about to come" "terrifying expectation of judgment" against the Jewish nation that drove apostle Paul in his missionary zeal to save some of them before the End.  "Knowing therefore the TERROR of the Lord [that awaits the unbelieving Jews] we persuade men."  Indeed.  But Paul didn't stop there.  He also knew that the faithful "sanctified" true Christians would be rewarded with an "upward call" (Phil. 3:14) in which  their bodies would be "changed" (1 Cor. 15:51) or "transformed" (Phil. 3:21) from mortality to immortality as they were "gathered" (2 Thes. 2:1;Mat. 24:31), "received" (John 14:3), or "caught up" (1 Thes.4:17) into the  "presence" (2 Thes. 1:10) of Christ at His Parousia.  There are too many of these promises to simply ignore.  They all reinforce one another.  The saints would have been more than disillusioned if nothing visible or tangible happened at the Parousia. 

In view of all the many apostolic statements about what they would see and experience at the Parousia, what should we reasonably expect to hear from them immediately after AD 70 if they were still around?  We should have heard jubilant and ecstatic claims of fulfillment coming from their mouths and pens.  Wonderful descriptions of the glorious advent of Christ from heaven with his angels rewarding them and destroying their persecutors.  Instead, we find a "deafening silence." Therefore, we have to ask whether these saints ever got what they were expecting! 

There is no chance that the Parousia would occur and they not see it.  They would have been complaining with the "mockers" if it had not occurred.  Paul, Peter, John and all the apostles said and believed that they would see the Parousia and experience the relief and reward that would come with it.  They would marvel at him in His Parousia.  So if they were still around, the only way they could be silent about it is if the Parousia didn't occur at all.  If it occurred, they would have seen it and experienced it. If they were still around afterwards they would have said something or wrote something about it.  Fiery torture could not have kept them from proclaiming it from the housetops.  They would have been ecstatic.

And it is not just the apostles who were silent.  All the leadership of the church is silent.  People like Luke, Timothy, Titus, Apollos, Barnabas, Silas, Gaius, and Aristarchus are silent as well.  Surely not all of these guys were killed in the persecution.  Some of them must have survived beyond AD 70 if there was no rapture.  Why didn't some of them say something about the fulfillments they had just witnessed at the Parousia?  The whole church and all the apostolic traveling companions and leadership were silent about the Parousia. 

The New Testament canon closed abruptly at AD 70, and left us hanging without any information about when, where, and how these leaders died, or where they were buried.  They vanish without a trace leaving no record of what their experience of the Parousia was like. 

The post-70 church which was composed of those who were left behind, obviously failed to recognize the time of Christ's second "visitation," the same way the Jews failed to acknowledge His first coming. 

o Luke 19:44 and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your VISITATION."

o 1 Pet. 2:12 Keep your behavior excellent among the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may because of your good deeds, as they observe them, glorify God in the day of VISITATION.

This later passage by Peter implies that the saints would know it when Christ returned.  His true saints expected to see and experience the vindication and reward on that day of visitation.  Well, did they get their reward and see his return?  Why didn't they say anything about it?  Why the silence?  Were they ashamed of Christ at His coming?  The NT writers say only the wicked would shrink away in shame at His coming.  His saints would draw near and glorify Him and marvel at Him in his presence!  I don't see how that joy and ecstasy could have subsided so completely and rapidly by AD 71 and following.

 Something is wrong with this picture.  If these folks were still around, they would be venting their exuberation and exhilaration.  Where is it?  Why don't we hear it?  Why the silence? 



SILENCE WHICH DEMANDS A VERDICT

Futurists use this silence to minimize the importance of AD 70 by saying, "Surely if AD 70 was as significant as you say, the leaders of the post-70 church would have said something about it, especially if it was the Parousia.  Since they ignore it, the implication is that it was not significant for Christians, and certainly could not have been the Parousia."  This silence also affects the "Partial Preterist view, since it gives them no historical support for their "some kind of coming at AD 70." 

There is a "documentation problem" for the rapture view, BUT it is not as significant a problem as it is for the non-rapture Preterist.  Absence explains the silence better than their continued presence does.  A continued presence is what creates the "documentation problem" in the first place.  So, this "documentation problem" is not really much of a "rapture" documentation problem at all.  But our critics have clearly pointed out how it is a "Parousia, resurrection, and judgment" documentation problem.  The lack of documentation for a rapture is only one-fourth of the whole package.  All of  us Preterists (regardless of our position regarding the rapture) still have a "Parousia documentation problem." 

For non-rapture Preterists, I would contend that the way they explain the lack of documentation for the Parousia is the same way I would explain the lack of documentation for a rapture.  But absence works better for the rapture view than continued presence does for the non-rapture position.

Partial Preterists and futurists do not accept the non-rapture (continued presence) explanation of the lack of documentation for the Parousia.  It really does not offer a real solution to the problem.  It merely begs the question.  So when a non-rapture Preterist asserts that the rapture Preterist has a "documentation problem," it leaves three fingers pointing back at him.  The non-rapture Preterist has three other events to find documentation for (Parousia, resurrection and judgment).  But the rapture theory provides a documentation solution to all  three of these events.  A rapture easily explains why no Christian after AD 70 mentioned the occurrence of the Parousia (they weren't around to document it).  The non-rapture view can't have that explanation in his bag of apologetic tricks, and so he is burdened with a radically greater "documentation problem" than the rapture Preterist.

If there was NO rapture, then apostle John and a whole bunch of the other leaders of the church (e.g., Apollos, Luke, Timothy, Titus, Barnabas, Gaius, Aristarchus, etc.) must have lived beyond the destruction and would have witnessed the fulfillment of the Parousia, resurrection and judgment.  Why didn't they say something about the fulfillments?  Did John suddenly lose all the knowledge about eschatology that he had when he wrote the book of Revelation and 1 John
2:18, 2:28, and 3:2?  Did all the other leaders suddenly forget everything they had heard the apostles teach about the Parousia?  Did the Parousia actually occur and they simply missed it and suddenly started thinking that the Parousia was no longer imminent any more?  Why didn't they say something about it if they knew it occurred?  Why do these leaders seem to suddenly vanish without a trace?  We don't know when, where, or how they died, nor where they were buried.  We should have reams of  excited and exuberant documentation from them if they had witnessed the fulfillments and lived beyond the event into the AD 70-100 period. 

Could it be that the reason they say nothing about the fulfillment of the Parousia is because they were not still around to document it???  Gasp!!!  (A rapture?)  Isn't it SINFUL for a Preterist to even think such a thing, much less even dare utter the "R" word?  Nope!  J. S. Russell a century ago showed that it is perfectly consistent for a Preterist to believe in a rapture.

Mat. 16:27-28 says that "some" of the 12 disciples would still be alive at Christ's return.  We know John was one of those (John 21:22f).  But he was not the only one.  Christ says "some."  So it seems there would be at least two of the original 12 still alive at the Parousia.  Did they remember Jesus' promise to return before they died?  Matthew obviously did, and so did apostle John. 

After 70 AD, when John supposedly lived beyond it (according to tradition), did he actually know that the Parousia had occurred (like he claimed he would -- 1 John
2:28 and 3:2)?  Or was he one of those who did not recognize the time of Our Lord's visitation?  His accuracy (and inspiration) is at stake here.  If he and the others who were still alive had witnessed the Parousia and knew that it had occurred, why didn't they say something?  Or why don't we hear them at the end of their life on their deathbed bemoaning the fact that Christ had promised to return in their lifetime, but had failed to keep that promise, because they never saw it occur?  And if they had seen it, how could they ever go to their death without mentioning that it was fulfilled? 

You see, it is not the Rapturists who has a "documentation problem" here.  It is the non-rapture Preterist who has the problem. 

Silence demands an absence, since a continued presence could not have been silent!  My previous non-rapture explanations for the rapture texts have reached dead ends (historically, grammatically and contextually).  They no longer seem credible in view of the "deafening silence" that pervaded the church immediately after AD 70, when they should have been shouting from the housetops that Christ had returned. This "deafening silence" of the apostolic voice after AD 70 speaks volumes about what had happened. It is a "documentation problem which points explicitly toward a rapture removal of the true saints at the Parousia.  If there wasn't a rapture, then all Preterists have an insurmountable "documentation problem."  We would have to explain why John and the other remaining apostles were not bemoaning their  failure to see the Parousia and be rewarded in the fashion they were expecting.  There is simply too much "silence" for us to explain away
without a rapture removal. 

The rapture is the only consistent way I have found to solve this "Parousia documentation problem."  Again, there is no documentation problem for the rapture.  We would not expect any documentation of a rapture from the "sleepers" who were left behind.  They were not awake and did not know what had happened.  And they were certainly not allowed to see it, any more than the 50 prophets in Elijah's day were allowed to see His translation into heaven (2 Kings 2).  They couldn't document something they didn't see or even know occurred.

Questions: If the Parousia occurred and some of the apostles (John and at least one other) were among the faithful ones who were "watching and waiting" and recognized it, why didn't they say so after AD 70 if they were still around?  Did they suddenly lose their ability to speak and write? Did John see it like he said he would (1 Jn.
2:28, 3:2)?  Did he KNOW he saw it?  Did he live beyond it?  Did he lose his memory or his ability to communicate?   Did anyone else SEE the Parousia and know that it occurred?  Did Luke, Apollos, Timothy, Titus, or any of the other faithful disciples who lived and remained until the Parousia see it?  Did they KNOW the Parousia had occurred, or were they unfaithful and failed to "recognize the time of His visitation?"  If they knew it occurred, why didn't some of them say so?  Why didn't at least one of them write about it in one of the uninspired non-canonical writings immediately after AD 70?  Wasn't it a significant event?  Or was it so ho-hum that they ignored it and went right on their merry way with their  lives as if nothing had happened?  How could those who "waited so anxiously"  at fever pitch for His Parousia and said "Maranatha" all of a sudden become so indifferent after His Parousia? 

Something is drastically wrong with this picture!  The silence is SCREAMING -- a "deafening" silence so LOUD that even our critics have heard it. Why haven't we?

Where's the beef?  Why didn't apostle John state clearly for the record that the things he had just written in the book of Revelation had now been fulfilled?  If he was still around and had not been "received to Christ" like John 14:3 promised, then was he so disillusioned by the non-fulfillment of John 14:3 and the lack of seeing the Parousia that perhaps he was struck dumb and was unable to say anything?  Or maybe he lost all memory of what Jesus had said and just decided (like Roman Catholic tradition asserts) to go through the countryside teaching nice "love one another" platitudes and avoid mentioning the HUGE events that had just occurred?  Preposterous, you say?  Exactly!  It would take more blind faith to believe that, than to simply understand that Christ kept his word and "received [the remaining disciples] to Himself" along with all the other faithful true sanctified believers who "waited anxiously" for His return, and whose "spirits and souls and BODIES" were preserved complete and blameless until the Parousia (1 Thes. 5:23), at which time they were "caught up" (1 Thes. 4:15-17) to accompany Him during the three and a half years of His Parousia presence (AD 66-70). 

It is obvious from what little writings we have from the period (AD 70-150) that the whole post-70 Church was unaware of Christ's return in AD 70.  And we have no writings of any apostles or their close disciples after AD 70.  For some reason we do not know anything for certain about WHEN they died, WHERE they died, HOW they died, or where they were buried.  They vanish without a trace.  All the traveling companions of Paul (Silas, Luke, Timothy, Titus, Gaius, Aristarchus, etc.) are silent.  It is not likely that they all died in the persecution.  Surely several of them would have survived the  "tribulation" and lived on beyond AD 70.  There is a tradition that the Christians (evidently the mere "professing" ones only) who fled to
Pella returned to Jerusalem later after the war.  Why were they so silent after AD 70?  Why didn't some of them explain the significance of this event, and mention the fulfillment of Christ's return, the resurrection and judgment?  Did they fail to "recognize the time of [His] visitation" the second time,  the same way the Jews missed it the first time (cf. Luke. 19:44)?  Or were all those who saw His return simply "snatched away?" 

I see this silence as the very proof of the rapture at the Parousia.  They wrote nothing about it because they were no longer around to write about it.  Surely if apostle John and those other leaders of the pre-70 church had still been around at the time of the Parousia they would have seen it and said something about it.  Silence can only be explained by one of two things:  either non-fulfillment of the Parousia, or a rapture removal.  The silence allows no other options. 



 DIDN'T JOHN & OTHERS LIVE BEYOND AD 70?

Those reading this might very well object that there is a strong tradition that John the apostle lived beyond AD 70 until the reign of Domitian.  If he did, the "reception into heaven" promise of John 14:3 was not fulfilled.  It  means John would have been left behind, and that cannot be.  If John's longevity beyond AD 70 could be proven, it would certainly bring the rapture theory into serious question. 

The continuation of apostle John beyond AD 70 is a complex historical problem, as Kenneth Gentry has noted in his book, BEFORE JERUSALEM FELL (pages 47ff).  Since Gentry believes the rapture is merely the "catching up" of all living saints to heaven at a supposed yet future "end of history," he naturally has no problem believing John lived beyond AD 70, but he mentions  that there are those who did take another position on that.  Some church father writings failed to understand which "Domitian" was being discussed in  regard to the persecution of Christians.  What is not widely known is that  one of Nero's legal names was "Domitian."  This created confusion about WHEN John was exiled to
Patmos.  Since the tradition said John was exiled by "Domitian" they assumed it was the later one, not Nero.  So those statements about John living until the reign of Domitian may have reference to Nero (Domitian) and not to the later Domitian.  This becomes significantly more probable when we see references to this "Domitian" being the "Tyrant," a term which was most often used in reference to Nero.  Here is what Foy Wallace says about this in his commentary on the book of Revelation: "...facts which are stated with authority and clarity by [Milton S.] Terry, an accomplished scholar, are corroborated with the same indubitable and historical evidence by MacDonald in The Life and Writings of John.  This together with the statement of the scholarly Robert Young that Sulpicius,  Orosius and others, had stupidly mistaken the reference to Domitius (Nero)  for Domitian, and that 'succeeding writers have fallen into the same blunder,' has created so much divergence of opinion and confusion..." [Foy Wallace, The Book of Revelation, p. 26]

This tradition about there being two different "Domitians" (one of them Nero) is not the only evidence against John's longevity on the earth beyond AD 70.  There is also church father evidence that there were two different "Johns" in
Ephesus.  Eusebius seemed quite certain there was another "John the Presbyter" who was confused with "John the apostle." (see Eusebius'  Ecclesiastical History, Book 7, Chapter 25, and other references to two different Johns).  The traditions we have about John the apostle after AD 70  are so muddled and confused that nothing certain can be based on them, especially when we see the Roman Catholic church using those traditions to buttress their universal control of Christianity.  The case can be made that the Roman church invented, embellished and propagated these theories for their own ecclesiastical purposes. 

We know that John and "some" of the other twelve apostles would live up until  the time of the Parousia (Mat. 16:27f), but there is no clear reference to  their staying on earth afterwards.  In fact, we have some fairly clear statements that they would not remain on earth, but rather go to heaven where Christ was at His Parousia (John 14:3).

The statements in John 21:22-23 when compared to Mat.
16:28; John 14:3, 1 Cor. 15:51 and 1 Thes. 4:13-17 are interesting.  John was promised that he would remain until Christ returned, at which time he and the other remaining apostles would be "received" to heaven where Christ was.  Some might have simply thought that meant that he would never die (if they were aware of Jesus' promise to the apostles to "receive them to himself" at the Parousia).

 John is quick to point out that it did not necessarily mean that he wouldn't die.  BUT, and this is the big point that is missed by most, John didn't rule out the possibility that he might NOT live on earth beyond the Parousia.  If there were no thoughts of a possible "ascension" or "rapture" he would have quickly and clearly affirmed that he would eventually die.  The way John hedges his statements here looks to me like he remembered what Jesus had promised in Mat. 19:28 and John 14:3.  He was holding out the hope that he would be "received to Christ" at the Parousia to sit on one of the twelve thrones at Christ's side as He judged and avenged their persecutors for three and a half years (AD 66-70).  If John had this "reception into heaven" in mind at the time he wrote the book (and I certainly believe that he did),  then he is simply saying that he will remain alive on earth until the Parousia, at which time he would be caught up to be with Christ to sit on one of the 12 thrones.  He may not have been sure what this meant for his physical body, similar to Paul's uncertainty about his being caught up to the third heaven.  He didn't know whether it was "in the body" or "out of the body."  I see John 14:3 and Mat. 19:28 in the background of his statements in John 21:22, both texts implying a rapture of the apostles at Christ's return.  This explains why John is seemingly so guarded about whether he would die or not.  He wasn't exactly sure what that would be like and what it would mean for his physical body. 

I believe John and the rest of the remaining apostles and true Christians (the "saints" or sanctified ones) were "caught up" to be with Christ at His Parousia (but not the mere professing or untrue Christians).  If they had still been around after AD 70 they would have mentioned the fulfillments that  had just occurred, especially if apostle John was one of the ones still around.  John literally "wrote the book" on AD 70 (the book of Revelation). 

For him to have been around afterwards and not mention the fulfillments of the book he wrote is more than a "documentation problem."  It would raise serious objections against the whole Preterist view.  I think the full weight of this problem needs to be felt by Preterists, and answered in a convincing way.  We have brushed it off and ignored it to our own hurt.  It's time we took it seriously and dealt with it. 

This silence not only affects the Preterist view, but the partial Preterist as well.  If AD 70 was some kind of "judgment coming" in some sense as they suggest, why didn't some of the post-70 writers who lived on both sides of AD 70 mention the fulfillments of Mat. 24:1-34, at least as a limited coming idea?  We don't even have that!  It is as if AD 70 never happened.  They don't even mention it, much less even give it some kind of limited coming status. 

If John the apostle was still around and saw no value in explaining or even mentioning the incredible fulfillments of his book, why should we?  Was it because he didn't understand the fulfillments, or was it because he simply did not SEE Christ at his Parousia?  The later facilitates the former.  If he didn't SEE the Parousia, then he would not have understood the fulfillment, and would not have been able to claim or explain the fulfillment.  In 1 John
2:18,28 and 3:2 he indicates that they would KNOW it when Christ returned, and would SEE it happen.  Well, did they?  Or did even John the apostle fail to "recognize the time of His visitation" the same way the Jews did? John was supposed to be sitting on a throne judging the 12 tribes after Christ's return, not meandering about the Ephesian countryside delivering quiet platitudes about  "love one another" (as the Roman Catholics would have us believe).   I simply see it as more consistent to believe that John was "received" up into heaven at the Parousia where he sat with Christ in judgment upon the Jewish nation during that three and one half year "presence" (AD 66-70) of Christ (the Parousia).  If he had still remained on earth, he would surely have recognized the fulfillments and said something about it.



WHAT ABOUT THOSE LEFT BEHIND?

Those left behind simply did not realize what had happened. They might have thought the leadership all died in the tribulation, or were exiled, put in prison, or otherwise consumed by the Romans in their galley ships, theaters, or mining camps.  They were not spiritually discerning and therefore missed the Parousia, resurrection, rapture and judgment.  They were spiritually asleep when Christ returned.

It is also possible that the number of folks "snatched away" might have been smaller than we think.  In Luke 18:8 Jesus said, "...when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?"  And in Mat. 24:10-24, "At that time many will fall away ... Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. ...most people's love will grow cold. ...For false Christs and false prophets  will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if  possible, even the elect."  There is a significant implication here that there might not be a large number of true saints left at the time of Christ's return. 

Because the ones left behind were not true Christians at the time of the rapture, they were not spiritually discerning enough to recognize that the Parousia had taken place. They couldn't document something they didn't see or even know occurred.  They were like the 50 prophets who watched as Elijah was taken to heaven in chariots of fire.  They did not see what Elisha saw.  They were not spiritual enough to see into the heavenly realm like Elisha was (2 Kings 2).  All they saw was a tornado whisk Elijah up into the air.  They went looking for his body for three days, in spite of the fact that Elisha told them what had really happened. 

The ones "left behind" did not know that Christ had returned, and had not seen it because they were not allowed to be privy to it.  So they could not tell anyone about it.  This absence of the true Christians immediately after AD 70 would certainly explain the "deafening silence" that occurred, and the lack of information we have about all the apostles and their close disciples  and traveling companions.

The post-70 "left behind" church had the writings of the apostles (our New Testament) to plant in the hearts of men and grow a new crop of Christians.   And that is how the church perpetuated itself, in spite of the fact that the apostles and their traveling companions and all the true and faithful Christians were "snatched away."



HOW DID THIS AFFECT THE
ON-GOING CHURCH?

In the second century when it became apparent to the church fathers that the eschatological events had not occurred in the first generation as predicted (according to their nature of fulfillment expectations), they began to separate the redemptive prophecies from the eschatological prophecies.  They started claiming the redemptive prophecies had been fulfilled, but that the eschatological prophecies were still future (but imminent).   There are occasional references in the Church Fathers to a complete fulfillment of the "soteriological" (redemptive) prophecies, mainly in the apologists against  the Jews.  But nowhere do they claim the eschatological prophecies were fulfilled. 

In the NT the apostles discussed soteriology (salvation) in tight connection with eschatology (final things).  By the middle of the second century, the Church Fathers had already disconnected eschatology from soteriology and were claiming that all the soteriology was fulfilled, but that the eschatology was still future. 

By the middle of the second century they began to postulate a slight delay in the return of Christ.  In my debate with Joseph Balyeat (1992) posted on the IPA web site (www.preterist.org), and in my two responses to Dr. Kenneth Gentry (STEVENS RESPONSE TO GENTRY) and Gary DeMar (QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AFTERLIFE) available in book form from IPA, I explained how this shift in the Church's understanding of the TIMING occurred.

This ignorance of the left behind folks also explains why the church went into immediate confusion and made so many departures from the NT patterns so soon after AD 70.  Their leadership was gone.  But at least they did have the  writings of the NT to guide them, and those should have been sufficient to keep them on track.  But they didn't follow them closely enough. 



WHEN DID THIS OCCUR AND HOW DO WE LABEL IT?

So where does this place the rapture chronologically, and how do we classify this particular rapture position in relation to the tribulation?  I see the rapture as occurring in AD 66, at the time the Jewish war with
Rome was shaping up. This was the time when Christ appeared, raised the rest of the dead out of Hades, raptured the "living and remaining ones" and began his three and a half year PRESENCE (Parousia) from AD 66-70.

Josephus mentions that they saw the angelic armies in the clouds in AD 66 just before the war with
Rome began. Tacitus, Eusebius and the Talmudic writings also mention these same kinds of things happening at this time.  The faithful saints, the true believers (not the mere "professers" or "sleepers" who were left behind) were "caught up" to accompany Christ and His angelic  armies the whole time while their persecutors (the Jews) were being destroyed  (AD 66-70).  This was the three and a half year Parousia (presence) of Christ to judge the Jewish nation for their covenantal unfaithfulness and vindicate the Church.  So, here's the chronological sequence that I'm suggesting for the rapture:

1. AD 62-66 (Satan released for short time -- Great Tribulation on the Church)
2. AD 66 (the Return of Christ, Resurrection, Rapture)
3. AD 66-70 (Christ's continued presence for Wrath and Judgment)

Notice there is a seven-year period involved here.  The rapture occurs in the middle of that period after the Great Tribulation on the Church, but before the Wrath is poured out upon the Jewish nation.  This would be classified as a "mid-trib" or pre-wrath position, depending on how the "tribulation" is defined.  If both the tribulation on the church and the wrath outpouring on  the Jewish nation are included in the definition of the "tribulation" then the rapture would be "mid-trib."  If we define "tribulation" as being only the tribulation on the church, and the wrath outpouring as what happened to the unbelieving Jews, then this concept of the rapture could be called "post-trib, pre-wrath."  But the best term to classify it is "mid-trib." 

I understand the Parousia to have been a three and a half year PRESENCE (AD 66-70) in which He judged the Jewish nation for "all the blood that has been  shed on earth from the blood of Abel" until AD 66.  Christ came in AD 66 to begin that judgment.  He resurrected the dead out of Hades (in the unseen realm) and "snatched away" his living and remaining true saints to him in the heavenly realm.  The twelve apostles sat on thrones next to him as He rode the heavens with his angelic armies to judge the Jewish nation.  They all accompanied Christ in the unseen heavenly realm and watched their vindication and avengement upon the Jewish nation. 



HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPENED BEFORE?

Some questions we need to consider:  Why is this rapture idea so difficult for modern thinkers to accept?  Is it really something totally new that God had never done before?  Why didn't the ones left behind see it happen, or at least discern that it had happened? 

I suspect that one of the big reasons why so many folks today have difficulty accepting the idea of a rapture is because of our technological mindset which considers supernatural events a little far-fetched and hard to believe.  So many of us look for a naturalistic explanation for every miracle in the Bible so that we can minimize the miraculous events down to a "safe" non-threatening level.  This is nothing more than "dumbing down" the Bible to fit our modern mindset, rather than educating our hearts to understand what the Biblical writers were really saying. 

There is nothing "out of character" for God to rescue or reward His servants  with something like a rapture or an escape from threatening circumstances.   He had done similar things many times throughout the Bible (e.g. Enoch, Noah,
Lot, Jacob, Joseph, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Elijah, Moses & the Exodus, and all the resurrections of folks). 

Elijah and Elisha were "seers" in the sense that they could see into the spiritual realm and see angelic activity that all other humans were not permitted to see.  Apostle Paul was "caught up" into the third heaven to see  some of those things.  John in the book of Revelation was also able to "see" these things.  The two witnesses in Rev. 11 were taken up to heaven, as was the male child in Rev. 12.  Stephen at his martyrdom saw Jesus standing in the heavenly realm.  Philip was "snatched away" from the desert road and  found himself at Azotus.  The angels became visible at Jesus' birth.  The transfiguration enabled some of Jesus' disciples to see Moses and Elijah who were not normally visible.  The ascension was attended by two angels, and they saw Jesus ascend into the Glory Cloud.  Apostle Paul saw and heard things at his conversion that no others standing close by were able to discern.  Enoch and Elijah were actually "caught up" in a similar way to Jesus' ascension, without experiencing physical death. 

The Parousia of Christ in AD 66 was attended with his angels.  Josephus records the sighting of the angels in the clouds.  This was one of those "theophanies" which had repeatedly occurred throughout the Old Testament  period.  God's presence and activity was not always seen by human eyes .   Usually it only "appeared" to those to whom God wished it to be seen by.

 There were those occasions when the clouds were literally rolled back like a scroll to open a window into the heavenly realm so that men on earth could see what was going on there.  This is not "out of character" for God's dealings with his creatures.  It is simply "out of experience" for people since God consummated his plan of redemption at AD 70.  It is not something that we have seen since AD 70.  Therefore, we have a hard time believing it  happened back then also. 

It was only seen by those whom Christ wanted it to be seen by.  That was the way the "theophanies" of God throughout redemptive history always occurred. 

They were not seen by everyone.  Sometimes it was only the enemies who saw His appearance just before they were destroyed, or only the righteous, true followers of God who were spiritual enough to be allowed to see it.  The rest were left in the dark, or "left behind."  The parable of the wise and foolish virgins, and other passages about being sanctified and blameless in order to  "see" the Lord at His Parousia  give us a hint that those who were "foolish" or not "sanctified" would not see this event, nor even know that it occurred.

 It evidently was a matter of "spiritual discernment."  There is nothing at  all "out of character" with the sightings of angelic armies in the clouds mentioned by Josephus.  It perfectly fits the OT pattern of theophanies and angelic appearances.  This was a real event that historically validates the prophetic accounts in our NT.  Jesus said there would be angels with Him when He returned in the clouds.  Why should it surprise us if it really happened that way?  Why is it so hard to believe? 

The ones left behind did not recognize the time of Christ's visitation, and therefore did not teach a fulfilled eschatology.  But they kept right on thinking and teaching that Christ's return was imminent in their lifetime and in their generation, until it became evident in the second century that it had not been fulfilled according to their expectations of the TIME.  There were three writers who suggested this delay concept (Shepherd of Hermas, Justin, and 2 Clement).  They started manipulating the time statements by suggesting there might be a slight delay (but still imminent).  That delay got extended further and further until eventually there was no thought of anything but an indefinite delay.  It never seemed to occur to them that their expectations about the NATURE of the event had been wrong and that the event had already occurred.



HAS ANYONE ELSE EVER SUGGESTED THIS?

I am not the first one to invent this rapture idea.  Four scholars a century ago (J.S. Russell, Milton S. Terry, Richard Weymouth, and Ernest Hampden-Cook) suggested the AD 70 rapture idea, and wrote several pages in defense of it in their books. They suggested that there may have been a rapture of the true Christians, so that the mere professing (but not true) "Christians" were left behind to carry on.  I am merely reminding all of us about their theory, and asking us to keep it in the back of our mind as the best way (maybe the only way) of resolving the "documentation problem." 

These four scholars were certainly not superstitious wackos.  They were well-educated theologians of their day, yet understood the spiritual way in which God accomplishes his work.  They recognized that the rapture fit the pattern of God's theophanies and redemptive work in the Old Testament.

And the rapture idea was not invented in the 1800's by a Scottish girl named MacDonald.  Numerous church fathers mention the "catching up" in their discussion about the end time events.  The Greek fathers especially used it  in the sense of a literal catching up from the earth into heaven.  They were in a much better position to know what it meant than we are.  If they understood the Greek word "harpazo" to mean a literal "snatching away" from earth to heaven, it would be a little presumptuous for us to redefine the word using some spiritualizing concept.  So it is not new at all to suggest that the saints would be "caught up" from earth to heaven at the Parousia.   The early church understood it that way and mentioned it in their writings.



CONCLUSION:

In summation, I would affirm that the rapture scenario that I have outlined here provides a much better explanation of the "documentation problem" for the Parousia, resurrection and judgment than any that have surfaced so far in the Preterist movement. And I believe it provides the reason why there was such a remarkable silence in the period immediately after AD 70 when we would expect the early church to be announcing the Parousia in a big way.  Documentation was lacking because there was no one left behind to tell the  story. 

This is the only historically plausible explanation I have seen to account for the ignorance of the post-70 church.  If there was not a rapture, there should have been plenty of Christians still around after AD 70 who had witnessed the Parousia, and some of them (especially the apostles or their traveling companions) would have said something about it if they were still around.  If apostle John was still around (which this rapture theory denies), surely he would have said something about what he had just seen at AD 70.  It is impossible (in my thinking) for John to have still been on earth after AD 70 and not say something about the Parousia having occurred.  The only way Preterists can have a plausible explanation for this "deafening silence" is a rapture.

We modern Preterists have danced around this problem and swept it under the carpet for decades.  We have lacked a historically, grammatically and contextually credible answer.  So far the only thing that has been forthcoming is what those four scholars (Russell, Terry,
Weymouth, and Hampden-Cook) suggested a century ago -- a rapture!  

This theory is the only explanation that has answered the problem in a convincing and satisfactory manner for me.  It makes more sense to me than any of the other theories that have been offered so far.  The texts I mentioned above, the "documentation problem," and the "deafening silence" have forced me to move in this direction.  All I can do is urge you to take a serious look at it.  If it doesn't make sense to you, no problem.  Let me know what you think about it.  Would love to have your evaluation of it.  Thanks for considering it.

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